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Sunday, January 9th, 2005
12:23 pm
[chanchal]
Hello Engineers.
Hi people,

I'm Sarwar Bhuiyan and I have a B.Sc. in Computer Engineering (hardware) from Queen's University. I graduated in 2003 and have since been working as a software engineer in Bangladesh. Despite being in software (yes, the winds change on you like that) I do want to get back into hardware like microprocessors and telecommunications. I'm thinking of going for a master's at Mcgill this year (if they'll have me, that is). Anybody in this field got any advice or can help me land a job in these areas, let me know. :) Cheers.

~ Sarwar
Tuesday, December 7th, 2004
11:46 pm
[sexy_tractor]
let allow me to introduce myself, i'm a man of wealth and fame.....
Ok, so I'm not wealthy or famous [yet =P], I just like the Rolling Stones. Anyways, hopefully I am not blatantly and insensitively violating any restraints on membership of this community as I see it's primarily for those in the Ironring. But nevertheless, my name is Jerry Erjavec, I'm currently a junior mechanical engineering student at the Milwaukee School of Engineering, obviously located in Milwaukee, WI. Since I don't have any creditials to mention, what I can offer (probably to the humor of you professionals) is that for current classes, I'm taking: Advanced Strength of Materials and Applied Stress Analysis (Strengths II), Thermodynamics II, Kinematics (Design of Machinery), and Calc 4. Reason for [attempting] to join is that I enjoy meeting people of similar interest, having my mind boggled until I can figure the boggling issue out, learning random new things, and meeting respectable people that I can aspire to model myself after in the future (that's not pure BS and brown nosing either). Well, I suppose I should be on my merry way, need to finish a lab writeup for Strengths 2 due in 12 hours.

Current Mood: relaxed and curious
Thursday, November 20th, 2003
12:28 pm
[peaceful_dragon]
Introductions
Hi! I'm Fred Ngo, B.A.Sc. Engineering Science 9T8 from University of Toronto. I specialized in Computer Engineering and am right now an ASIC designer at Matrox Graphics in Montreal.

I am thinking about going back to graduate school next year, most probably at McGill. I'll have to chat with you at some point, denizsarikaya. :)
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003
9:53 pm
[denizsarikaya]
Help out EWB Canada

Just got this in the mail from my local EWB Canada chapter. Even if it's not something any of you may be interested in, if you know any students it might be useful to, please feel free to pass it on. (Sorry 'bout the crappy formatting, but I only minimally modified the Word generated HTML because I didn't feel like breaking my head.)

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<DIV> <p>Just got this in the mail from my local EWB Canada chapter. Even if it's not something any of you may be interested in, if you know any students it might be useful to, please feel free to pass it on. (Sorry 'bout the crappy formatting, but I only minimally modified the Word generated HTML because I didn't feel like breaking my head.)</p> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003></SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><IMG height=3D171 src="http://www.ewb.ca/images/logo.jpg" width=3D427 v:shapes=3D"_x0000_i1025"></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN class=3DHeading3Char><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><STRONG><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003>Do you: </SPAN></STRONG></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN class=3DHeading3Char><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003>Want to make a difference in the world?</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN class=3DHeading3Char><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003>Want to work with Canada's Fastest growing international development organisation?</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN class=3DHeading3Char><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003>Thrive in a dynamic and high-performing working environment?</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN class=3DHeading3Char><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><STRONG><SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003></SPAN></STRONG></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><STRONG><SPAN class=3DHeading3Char><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Position:</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia> Director of Fund Development and Communications<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></STRONG></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>What's Needed:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>We are seeking an overachiever who is highly passionate about social change, both in Canada and abroad. This individual must be&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003>exceptionally </SPAN>competent and able to lead and take responsibility for all aspects of EWB's fund development and communications work, from strategy to execution.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>Engineers Without Borders:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Engineers Without Borders (EWB) is an emerging leader helping to overcome the challenges of worldwide poverty. We are a registered Canadian charity that helps people in developing communities gain access to technologies that will improve their lives. By working with community partners on projects in areas like water and sanitation, food production, and energy, EWB has lasting impact with those who are most in need.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Formed in 2000, we are Canada's fastest growing development organisation. In the past three years we have sent over 60 young Canadian engineers to work on 30 projects in 20 countries. Closer to home, our 3700 members in Canada strive to make Canada the most pro-development country in the world. Our work has enabled thousands of community members to gain access to more appropriate technology and has made their journey out of poverty slightly easier.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>People in the developing world have the drive to escape from poverty. EWB helps them gain access to the knowledge, resources, and technology they need to do so.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>EWB's Team:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>EWB has a unique and high performing team working environment. We incorporate both paid and volunteer staff in our national office, which supports volunteer, student-run chapters across the country. Our corporate culture is one of passion, pragmatism, thoughtfulness and dedication. We are somewhat unique as a non-profit organization in our commitment to a fact-based approach that incorporates business principles into our operations. Our leaders, staff and volunteers are generally young in years, and always youthful in spirit, which is manifest in our dynamism, positive outlook and long working hours.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>The Opportunity:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>First and foremost, your involvement with EWB will be very rewarding. You will play an integral role in helping build a young organization that is already having a real impact in Canada and around the world, and that will be building on this momentum during the coming months and years.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Regardless of whether you are recently finished school, early in your professional career, or a mid-to-late career professional, this position offers growth opportunities and a high level of responsibility. As well, our entire team is highly dedicated to and makes space for both personal and professional development. Finally, this is an opportunity to work amongst and meet passionate, likeminded people.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>Responsibilities:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>You will support communications across the entire organization, which will include writing, supporting and coaching volunteers, and some strategy development. However, your primary measurable output will be in the area of fund development. In particular, you will be responsible for developing funds from two key constituencies - professional engineers and corporations (engineering and other). This will include:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 35.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Working to create an overall strategy<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 35.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Developing communications materials<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 35.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Creating and fostering necessary association/corporate partnerships<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 35.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Preparing and delivering funding proposals and presentations<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 35.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Developing and tracking a donor community<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 35.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Supporting other fundraising efforts within the organization<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>You:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>This position is open to people from all backgrounds, however, you must show:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <OL style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0pt" type=3D1> <LI class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>A passion for social change and EWB's mission/areas of operation<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN> <LI class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Competency - You must either be experienced or have the ability to learn quickly about all aspects of fund development and communications. In particular, some of the skills that will be required are:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></LI></OL> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 53.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 54.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>An ability to craft messages and write very well for a variety of audiences<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 53.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 54.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Dynamic speaking in a way that effectively delivers messages<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 53.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 54.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Problem solving and strategic planning<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 53.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 54.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Layout and design, and proficiency with software such as Quark, Photoshop, and Illustrator.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 53.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 54.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">@<SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>An understanding of how to work with both local and national media.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <OL style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0pt" type=3D1 start=3D3> <LI class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>Leadership<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></LI></OL> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>More Information:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>We encourage you to find out more information about Engineers Without Borders at </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.ewb.ca/"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>http://www.ewb.ca/</FONT></A><FONT face=3DGeorgia>.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D3>Compensation:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT face=3DGeorgia>$32,000/year<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P> <H3 style=3D"MARGIN: 12pt 0pt 3pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana>Process:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Please submit your résumé and a covering letter to <A href=3D"mailto:hr@ewb.ca">hr@ewb.ca</A>. The application process closes<SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003> at midnight </SPAN>on <B>November&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003>8th</SPAN>, 2003<SPAN class=3D020304614-21102003> - NOTE THIS IS A NEW DATE, Replacing the original date of November 5th 2003.</SPAN></B></SPAN></DIV>


Current Mood: informative
Friday, July 25th, 2003
6:08 pm
[denizsarikaya]
Introductions
*wave*

I'm Deniz Sarikaya, B. Eng. Electrical (Integrated Circuits and Electronics) from McGill University (Camp #2). I'm currently working as a research assistant at McGill's Centre for Intelligent Machines, on two grants dealing with Human Computer Interactions, Augmented Reality, and so foth.

I'm behind in filing paperwork with the OIQ, so I'm not claiming the title "Engineer in Training" (I swear, these titles get dorkier by the year) yet.

Update 2005-01-09: Just to keep this up to date, I'm no longer working at McGill University, but at a small startup, Net Integration Technologies, Inc. (or check out the better wiki). I work in QA and also do some work which at other companies would probably be called project management. Cheers!

Current Mood: geeky
2:42 pm
[henman]
I thought you said ironing for a minute!
I graduated from Lancaster University (England) with a B.Sc. (Hons) in Computer Science with Operational Research ... it must be about 15 years ago now!   :o

We don't do the iron ring thing in the UK, but we are still called software engineers (amongst other things).

I seem to recall there were rumblings in Europe to us prevent softies from being called engineers - apparently their definition of engineer is very limited.

Current Mood: thirsty
Saturday, July 25th, 2020
12:47 pm
[bigbull]
Hello, I am bigbull.
I am an Environmental Engineer from the University of Windsor (Camp 14) and the moderator of this community.
I have created this community for all holders of the Ironring to have a place to talk, share ideas, help with job resources and resumes and most of all to recount the fun experiences we had as students. So if you have an Ironring please join in and start off with an introduction of who you are, what you discipline is and where you went to university. Hopefully you will make new friends and find some old ones.

Bull

Current Mood: geeky
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